my household owns 3 hondas and leases 1 more. we are a Honda family. we love the Honda. if my problem is not fixed there will be no more hondas in the driveway. our civic has a loud noise and vibration in the back. my wife takes it to Honda and they say our rear tires are wore out.why we ask.they say we did not rotate the tires. ok fine butwhy the flat spots on the rear tires. you did not rotate the tires is their reply.we go online and find out many people have the same problem. Honda better do the right thing and fix the problem or there will be nomore hondas in my drive!

It is really obvious that the existing problems from 06 and 07 still exists. If the camber issue was corrected now it is time to replace the springs and shocks as they appear to be to soft causing the rear tires to bounce and create uneven wear (The wave).

As for tire rotation I am glad I did not rotate the tires because I would rather replace two tires than replace all four. Since when do the tires that drive the car (front wheel drive) wear less than the tire that glide behind.

WIKIPEDIA Encyclopedia Definition and discussion on tire rotation states: " Front wheel drive vehicles also have the differential in front, adding to the weight, with a typical weight distribution of no better than 60:40. This means, all else being equal, the front tires wear out at almost twice the rate of the rear wheels, especially when factoring the additional stress that braking puts on the front tires. Thus, tire rotation needs to occur more frequently for front-wheel drive vehicles." Sounds like simple physics to me!

With that said, I guess Honda is defying the odds, their rear tires wear out three times as fast!

I knew I should have stuck with the Ford Focus, it was cheaper and the other two (ZX5 and ZX4) I still own have greater than 50,000 miles a piece with only minor problems taken care of by the dealership at no cost.

I have the same exact problem with my 2008 Civic suspension. It started at 13,000 miles. I heard the same excuses and explanation in Delaware. The service department is saying that the tires should have been rotated at 10,000 miles and I waited until 13,000 at which point they didn't rotate because they wanted the best tires on the front. They are willing to pay for one tire while I pay for the other. I know this is just a temporary fix because the tires will need replacing in less than 20,000. Definitely a defect in the rear of the 2008 Honda Civic which has never been addressed. The same problem has been reported in the 2006 and 2007 models.

I heard and felt the vibration after 10,000 miles but thought it was a wheel that needed balancing. At 15,000 miles I could see flat spots on the rear tires. So I went on the web to research my problem and found out that a lot of people where having the same problem. I took it into the dealer for a check up where they told me it was from lack of tire rotation and unless I had proof that I had rotated the tires every 3,000 miles they could do nothing for me. They told me that it had the updated upper control arms because they had a letter C on them. So now I am out the price for all new tires and new upper control arms. I don't care if they tell you it's fixed, no tires should wear out with big flat spots on them after only 10,000 to 15,000 miles on them. Even if you never rotated. Honda has done me wrong on this deal and this is my 4th brand new Honda I have owned. I don't know if there will be a 5th.

I want to start off the 2007 and 2006 owner of Honda civic have already had this problem. My car had a bad noise in the rear. Well first time they replaced the wheel bearing did make it better still hear a noise. Then nexted oil change I tell the guy they say nothing to worry about normal road noise and they didn't rotate my tores the best one are on the front. This is the set up, nexted oil change I say that noise has gotten louder, 22k on the car now, your tires are cupped from no rotation, wait cupping is from suspension not rotation, well they tell me Honda non adjustable camber had some wrong control arms and a tsb on some older model but nothing on mine. He tell me to call Honda, then say wait I tell you let me call my rep. he calls me back and says I have a deal for you I buy one tire you buy the other and you pay for the alignment. I said ok. Well then the firework started when I got hoe and looked on the internet and found all the problem that Honda is have I went off just nuts, I wrote and faxed Honda a three page letter about how unfair this is to all loyal Honda owner and who did they think they are gm.

Well after three days of fighting with the dealer and Honda nothing but an alignment and tires where put on my car, they did not have the before sheet of alignment spec only the after this tells me that they real did nothing and my tires will cup again. on top of this the spec are just in by .1% that is it that is thin very thin. At this point i have filed a better business complaint against Honda and the dealership. I want abortion at this point. Not just my repairs I have lost all faith in Honda of America. This is how ford gm start doing this in the 80s to customers. Honda must have been hang out to long with them. This is to bad as well I was a hard corp Honda guy, I was a Honda service manger at one time from 2002-2003 this is when Honda start this kind of stuff. What I mean have a problem and not really do anything. Since mr Honda died the company is no longer the same. I thought it was a green and friendly company I was wrong.

To top it off when I get to the dealership they give me the wrong key when I drove off the lot the tsp light is on and there is now a vibration in my steering wheel. I hate this car. It is a lemon