CarComplaints.com Notes: The 2012 Honda Accord has a solid reputation (so far), with one very significant flaw: uncomfortable seats.
Owners have consistently reported uncomfortable seats with the entire 8th generation (2008-2012) of Honda Accords. Complaints range from back pain to leg circulation problems due to bad lumbar support, cushioning, & seat angle. Complaints aren't limited to only a certain body type -- the seat comfort problems are from a wide spectrum of owner height & weight.
The common theme we hear is "we never noticed this during the test drive." Unfortunately for unwary buyers, the seat pain is noticeable after 15-20 minutes.
We live down in the woods and park our vehicles under a carport away from our house. In 40 years we have never had a problem with rodents damaging the wiring in our automobiles (or our tractor, lawn mowers, golf cart, etc), until this year. And we still have had no problem except on our 2012 Honda Accord. On the internet it says that there have been lots of problems with Honda, Toyota, Subaru, Audi and several U.S. manufacturers, starting with years around the 2010 models, which are the years that these auto manufacturers started using soy material in their "eco-friendly" wire coverings. Honda actually uses it because it is less expensive, but it is DEFINITELY customer-unfriendly! The RODENTS LOVE IT!!! THANKS HONDA!!!
Even though they deny it, Honda knows EXACTLY what they are doing with their soy coated wiring because they now actually make some very expensive rodent repellent tape, incorporating hot red pepper, that YOU CAN BUY to wrap your rodent-bait wiring (they won't supply it to you free to combat the problem that they created). Thus they are essentially admitting that they have created a rodent problem! And charging you to fix it! Honda should be applying this deterrent to all of the faulty, rodent-food cars that they are currently building. And, they should be willing to supply and apply this tape to rodent-damaged Honda cars as they are repaired, to try to minimize the problem that they have created and stop the repetitive rodent damage. Honda has made themselves a great new business - attracting and feeding the rodents, then charging us a LOT of money ($1,600 in my case - Honda had to pull the engine to get to some of the rodent damaged wiring) for repairing the damage. The guy at the Honda repair shop was telling me about a guy who bought a new $70,000 Acura and when it was less then two month old rodents did over $3,000 in wiring damage. NOT PAID FOR by the ACURA WARRANTY!!! Imagine how happy that customer is!!!
Honda, Toyota, etc, customers and all of the auto insurance companies should be strongly harassing all of the "SOY Wiring" auto manufacturers to admit to the stupid mistake that they have made and pay for the idiotic, "eco-friendly", actually "rodent-friendly" and "customer-unfriendly," monster that they have created. And, the customers should all just TOTALLY STOP buying Honda, Toyota, etc, cars until those manufacturers fess up and FIX THE PROBLEM!!!
The really bad part of this unbelievable situation is that I would like to buy a new car. I was contemplating buying either another Honda Accord or a Toyota Camry (even with their really UGLY copy-cat grill). As it turns out, I am extremely lucky that the rodents who ate my 2012 Accord didn't wait another couple of months - I would have been the proud owner of an expensive new pile of 2018 Honda or Toyota rodent bait. Now I don't know what to do. I don't see any reasonable alternative car built by any reasonable, rational, non-"eco"-idiocy auto manufacturer. Please help me with any suggestions. Thanks.
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We live down in the woods and park our vehicles under a carport away from our house. In 40 years we have never had a problem with rodents damaging the wiring in our automobiles (or our tractor, lawn mowers, golf cart, etc), until this year. And we still have had no problem except on our 2012 Honda Accord. On the internet it says that there have been lots of problems with Honda, Toyota, Subaru, Audi and several U.S. manufacturers, starting with years around the 2010 models, which are the years that these auto manufacturers started using soy material in their "eco-friendly" wire coverings. Honda actually uses it because it is less expensive, but it is DEFINITELY customer-unfriendly! The RODENTS LOVE IT!!! THANKS HONDA!!!
Even though they deny it, Honda knows EXACTLY what they are doing with their soy coated wiring because they now actually make some very expensive rodent repellent tape, incorporating hot red pepper, that YOU CAN BUY to wrap your rodent-bait wiring (they won't supply it to you free to combat the problem that they created). Thus they are essentially admitting that they have created a rodent problem! And charging you to fix it! Honda should be applying this deterrent to all of the faulty, rodent-food cars that they are currently building. And, they should be willing to supply and apply this tape to rodent-damaged Honda cars as they are repaired, to try to minimize the problem that they have created and stop the repetitive rodent damage. Honda has made themselves a great new business - attracting and feeding the rodents, then charging us a LOT of money ($1,600 in my case - Honda had to pull the engine to get to some of the rodent damaged wiring) for repairing the damage. The guy at the Honda repair shop was telling me about a guy who bought a new $70,000 Acura and when it was less then two month old rodents did over $3,000 in wiring damage. NOT PAID FOR by the ACURA WARRANTY!!! Imagine how happy that customer is!!!
Honda, Toyota, etc, customers and all of the auto insurance companies should be strongly harassing all of the "SOY Wiring" auto manufacturers to admit to the stupid mistake that they have made and pay for the idiotic, "eco-friendly", actually "rodent-friendly" and "customer-unfriendly," monster that they have created. And, the customers should all just TOTALLY STOP buying Honda, Toyota, etc, cars until those manufacturers fess up and FIX THE PROBLEM!!!
The really bad part of this unbelievable situation is that I would like to buy a new car. I was contemplating buying either another Honda Accord or a Toyota Camry (even with their really UGLY copy-cat grill). As it turns out, I am extremely lucky that the rodents who ate my 2012 Accord didn't wait another couple of months - I would have been the proud owner of an expensive new pile of 2018 Honda or Toyota rodent bait. Now I don't know what to do. I don't see any reasonable alternative car built by any reasonable, rational, non-"eco"-idiocy auto manufacturer. Please help me with any suggestions. Thanks.
- bhterrell, McKinney, US