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Transmission Failure While Towing By Motor Home
2009 Ford Escape
This problem may be covered under warranty. Ask your Ford dealer.
9.3
really awful- Typical Repair Cost:
- No data
- Average Mileage:
- 19,650 miles
- Total Complaints:
- 14 complaints
Most Common Solutions:
- not sure (8 reports)
- stop selling as towable (6 reports)
transmission problem
Helpful websites
- 2009 Ford Escape Flat Towing Problems - I have included many resources on this blog, including other forum posts, relevant documents and communications with Ford representatives at many levels. I am appalled at how Ford is handling this matter!
A D V E R T I S E M E N T S
I've decided to post my experience with towing the 2009 Ford Escape here and everywhere else I can in hopes that by drawing attention to the issues I've had, it will help others and maybe get some actual help from Ford instead of the lip service and run around it looks like they've been giving so far.
In 2009, when the Saturn I had flat towed behind my motorhome since 2001 needed to be replaced, I was going to buy another Saturn because I had been so happy with the trouble free towing of it for so many years. But once I discovered that Saturn was basically going out of business, I decided to research to see what other cars with automatic transmissions were okay for flat towing.
Even though I had not been traveling for a couple of years at that point, the most important consideration was that it could easily be flat towed because I still intended to resume my fulltime RVing lifestyle as soon as I could. The 2009 Ford Escape looked like the best option to me. I didn't see anything to cause concern at that point, it was highly rated by Consumer Reports, and the towing instructions clearly outlined in the owner's manual were not complicated or burdensome.
November 19, 2009:
Date I purchased car. Mileage: 13,866. I loved it at this point!
Decision to purchase this year and model based on Ford representation that it can be flat towed behind motorhome per dealer and 2009 Escape Owner’s Guide, page 193. Since I had flat towed a Saturn for years this was not a new concept to me.
February 19, 2010:
First time towed from Austin to Baton Rouge (400 miles). I followed all Owner’s Guide instructions explicitly. Upon arrival, after unhooking and driving car just a few miles and parking, smoke poured from underneath car. Took it to nearby dealer, Robinson Brothers Ford, who told me there was a recall relating to the transmission. Parts Director told me there were 2,500 of the necessary parts for this recall on back order at this time, but since I was traveling away from home, he would find me one on an emergency basis. Service described as: “Found trans leak at left axle shaft. Replace axle bushing, seal & axle assembly. Refill trans fluid and road test. Drain fluid again and refill per TSB 10-1-5 and road test to verify repair.â€
It was then that I found out the transmission had been replaced in April 2009 during its prior ownership. As far as I know, though, it had not been towed since there had been no base plate or other evidence that it had been. Should have seen the red flags then, but I thought it was great that I basically had a new transmission. Foolish me!
May, 2010:
Received letter from Ford with a booklet “Recreational (Flat) Towing and Transmission Fluid Level Supplement.†Letter states, “The recreational vehicle four wheel down towing instructions in your Owner’s Guide are incorrect.†The main difference I could see was that the booklet gave instructions about proper fill level for transmission fluid.
April 12, 2011:
I left Austin heading for Columbia, SC. Since it had been over a year since car had been towed, I made sure I thoroughly understood all requirements. I compiled all instructions with pictures for easy reference and made sure transmission fluid level was within range recommended.
In the 6 days it took to get from Austin to Columbia, SC, the battery kept dying after a day or two of towing, and after many discussions with service rep from where I bought the car, and assurances from 2 guys who came out to jump start the battery that I was doing everything correctly, the 3rd guy showed me that the picture of where the key should be for flat towing was really not correct when the car was in neutral. When it is in neutral, the key should be all the way to the farthest right, which the book shows is in the “locked†position where the wheels wouldn’t turn. This is correct when in Park position but not when in Neutral. This was on the last day of this particular trip, but the battery was not dead when I arrived at my destination that day. So hopefully this issue is resolved - I’ll know more when I take off again on May 18. Pat, the service rep at Leif Johnson Ford in Austin where I bought the car, and Melissa at Ford Customer Relations were both very helpful in trying to help me through this issue.
April 29, 2011: (Mileage = 20,500)
While driving car at 45-50 mph, I heard grinding noise and steering wheel started shimmying.
I took it to the nearby Lugoff, SC Ford dealer where Paul Stewart, the service rep, kindly fit me into the schedule. Bob (service tech) drove around with me and of course the noise did not recreate. He confirmed transmission fluid level was correct. But he said to be on the safe side, he wanted to put it up on the rack to see what he could see from underneath.
When he returned, he showed me a couple of pages he copied (page 40 and 41 from Ford about front and rear towing connections on the Escape and Mariner). Based on this, he and Paul told me this car was not recommended by Ford to be flat towed. This did not exactly engender confidence in me about their experience with this issue and I told them I knew this was true for older models, but that the 2009 Escape could be flat towed according to the Owner’s Manual that I showed to him, along with the 2010 supplemental booklet.
They then acknowledged that it looked like I had done everything correctly according to the manual and supplement, but Bob said that he could see “early signs of transmission failure.†He said the left axle is loose where the axle goes into the transmission and that failure may be prevented by replacing left transmission axle bushing and seal.
This sounded familiar to me, so I had him check the car’s service record to see this was exactly what was done in February in Baton Rouge per the recall. He agrees this is cause for concern that it would fail again in a little over a year. He also wants to pull the fluid plug to make sure no metal is in the transmission fluid because this could not be seen just by checking fluid level on the dipstick.
My concern at this point is that the parts needed are still on national back order and they could not tell me how long it would be before they would receive it, even though they submitted it as an emergency.
I then called Ford Customer Relations (800-392-3673) and spoke to a woman named Connor. I outlined the history as briefly as possible and told her what the Lugoff dealer said and that I wanted Ford’s help with getting the part because I needed to leave SC on May 18. I figured since this was the second time this same issue arose that the least they could do was expedite arrival of the necessary part.
After putting me on hold, she came back and said “Ford recommends you working with the dealer at this time. I have documented your concern and sent it over to the dealership in Lugoff. They should contact you within 4 business days. They said if they replace the part, the vehicle will be safe.â€
I asked her if she had actually listened to anything I said before she put me on hold and came back with her “canned†response. I had already been to the dealer, this was the second time I had been told the same issue needed to be fixed and that I wanted some sort of assurance that this car was actually safe to be flat towed as Ford represented. She replied, “If it was a towing issue and there’s not a fix for it yet, Ford is aware of it - they do send these concerns to the engineers.†Gee, thanks a lot, Connor - that really makes me feel a lot better - NOT!!!
Regarding the part being on national back order and my request to expedite that request: “There’s nothing Ford can do if it’s on back order. If you’re willing to call another parts company to try to get the part, it’s up to the dealership if they’re willing to install it.†She said Green Sales Company (513-731-3304) might have the part.
I then called Paul Stewart at Lugoff Ford again. He didn’t understand Connor recommending another parts company. He said the part has to come from Ford to be covered under Ford warranty. The axle kit has been put on emergency order status by his parts department. It may be here Monday or it may be 3 weeks - no way of telling and nothing else he can do.
He said obviously they’re having a nationwide issue with this because of parts being on back order already. He said engineers were probably working on a redesigned axle or bearing, but that could take a couple of years, and in the meantime Ford would take care of repairs. I expressed my concern about that, especially once warranty is expired and he said even then since it had been an ongoing issue, it would be covered under “good will warranty.â€
Sorry, but this does not feel like “good will†to me - feels more like the royal runaround!
May 4, 2011:
So at the moment, I’m waiting for a call back from Paul at Lugoff Ford to see if he has any ETA on getting the part.
It scares me to death to read some of the other forum complaints about flat towing this car. As a woman who travels alone, I need to know Ford will stand behind their products and their word about how they can be used!
- maliasrv, Austin, TX, US