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9.4
really awful- Typical Repair Cost:
- $770
- Average Mileage:
- 111,050 miles
- Total Complaints:
- 10 complaints
Most Common Solutions:
- not sure (6 reports)
- adjustment of rear (drum brakes) (1 reports)
- change the part yourself.it is not easy,waiting for recall (1 reports)
- fixed, finally (1 reports)
- replace and bleed brakes (1 reports)
brakes problem
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A D V E R T I S E M E N T S
Many people have had the same issue. We bought the vehicle new so we know what it was like coming from the factory. The braking was excellent.
But when the spongy problem develops, the brake pedal goes nearly to the floor before any braking resistance. Note that you do get some braking near the top of the stroke but it is velocity sensitive. i.e. if you punch the pedal quickly you get some decent initial braking near the top of the stroke, but the pedal is heading towards the floor and you don't get solid braking until it is nearly at the floor. We tried with professional service and got some degree of improvement, but the problem has recurred in full force like it was a year ago when it started.
History:
Started a year ago... scared my wife a couple times thinking she may not be able to stop. I tried pulling all three the ABS fuses (one at a time) to see if defeating ABS would cure it. It did not. Ford for $150 diag fee said we needed a new master cylinder and the ABS valve assembly ~ $3000 total. ~ $2300 of that for the the ABS. We got a second opinion from local place called Network Alignment (NA) in Gilbert that had done decent honest work for us in the past with other cars.
NA did not think it was the ABS controller. But due to age/milage of vehicle, we thought it would be most cost effective to replace the master cylinder as they had no other ideas. I asked about front pads/rotors and rear drums and they said fronts were good and backs were worn but OK. I elected to replace rear shoes and drums because it was really inexpensive to do so and that way take front and rear braking hardware out of the equation. After NA finished replacements it was improved but not like it was when new. I got good braking half way to the floor. I tried pulling fuses again with the ABS and it made no difference. I tried the old trick of backing up and braking hard to activate the rear drum adjustors and that made a noticeable difference. Not as good as brand new but it was improved.
A year has gone by and over the course of the year brakes have gotten a bit spongier. Today it scared the wife as she thought she would not stop at the bottom of highway ramp. The fluid levels were fine, so I tried ABS fuses again. Pumping helped a bit temporarily but 30 seconds later it would be spongy near the floor. I also tried reversing and braking in order to tighten up the rear brake shoe to drum clearance. It did not help.
I was almost out of ideas.
So I am thinking sponginess (excessive pedal travel) can be caused by some slack in the system. Air in the line, or the gap between pads and the rotor and/or gap between the shoe and the drum.
So I tried something I had not done before. At idle in park, I put the parking brake on really hard thinking it would to take up some slack in the drum system in the rear. I seemed to make a very small difference in the brake pedal take up. I cycled the parking brake several times, pressing it really hard each time. In AZ there is little corrosion so I did not worry about getting the parking brake on a 12 year old car stuck in the engaged position. In the north, this may well be a worry.
Anyway my parking brake trick did not seem to affect pedal takeup while the parking brake was on. I greased parking brake and put car in reverse to back out of driveway for another drive test. I braked a couple times reversing out of drive way, and each time the brake pedal action improved. In drive, the brakes was like new.
It seems that the auto adjusting action of my new (a year ago) drum brakes failed. The hard cycling of parking brake seems to have cured the failure of the rear drum brake auto adjusters.
- Frank N., Gilbert, AZ, US