Rough idle at stop/very low speed but no rpm fluctuations at any higher driving speeds. . Code P0302 will not show up once cleared when I am driving at speeds over 1200 RPM (45-90 MPH) in 6th gear but code shows up again at slow/idling speeds in parking lots or idling at signal light.
All plugs and #2 coil pack replaced,code cleared, no change, code P0302 after 2 miles of slow driving.
Have owned since new, filter and oil changed with 5W20 Castrol every 5000miles. Car does alot of short distance driving , less than 5 miles about 12 times per week with a few 16 mile highway trips in between.
No coolant temp issues as per the coolant temp gauge.
I have NOT changed the PCV valve so maybe oil contamination in intake but that should affect all cylinders not just the #2.
No mechanical noises obvious from engine. Scan tool shows all injectors are within range and similar to each other.
The transmission shifts harder than when new, I did have the trans oil flushed/replaced with new oil but it was all models trans oil from NAPA done approx. 10,000 miles ago. Filter was not changed, I was told there is no filter for this trans by shop, not a dealership shop. Some comments online about TCC solenoid causing issues at idle due to not unloading Torque converter causing idle issues.
Also some talk of CPS causing issues.
Have gone to local Chrysler dealership and explained the issues and what has been done so far to mechanical foreman. His immediate reaction is that the rockers need to be replaced likely due to damaged needle bearings in the roller rocker causing excessive play. Fix estimate $1200-2500 depending on damage found on other rocker arms, lifters and possibly cam.
While driving son to work, engine light came on so I shut down to see if the light would reset. No such luck. Continued on, about 4 blocks away, all controls on dash shut down, turn signals STOPPED WORKING, all check lights came on, radio shut off, wipers began to work without being turned on. Got him to work and shut down the vehicle. It went completely dead and wouldn't restart. No power. While waiting for a tow truck, vehicle made a clunking noise and power was restored. Vehicle started and check engine light and service AWD stayed on.
Vehicle is at approx. 25, 000 km.
Any suggestions?
Update from Jan 9, 2017: The dealership has had the Journey since Dec. 20, 2016 and have not been able to come up with a solution. The engine and modules are reading 1400 fault codes. No solution from mechanics or Dodge Canada Technicians. Sorry just one solution from Canadian Technicians, put radio module in the freezer. Well it's -45 here in Canada, much colder than a freezer.
The great thing about the service center is that they have been accommodating in getting us a rental while they wait for directions from Dodge Canada.
ON 11/19/2014 BOUGHT, PAID IN FULL, 2015 DODGE JOURNEY already have MILEAGE of 8.
WITHIN the first 4 min OF PURCHASING THE VEHICLE, THE CHECK ENGINE SENSOR ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS SHAKING IN THE FRONT. THE NEXT DAY THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO REPLICATE NOR DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE DEALER DID NOT INDICATE IF THEY CLEARED THE CODE.
ON 11/21/2014, THE VEHICLE WAS RELEASED FROM THE DEALER, WITHIN 2 HOURS THE CHECK ENGINE SENSOR CAME BACK ON AGAIN.
FOR THE SECOND TIME THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER ON 11/24/2014. THE DEALER INDICATED THAT THERE WAS AN ELECTRONIC FAILURE AND THE POSITION SENSOR FAILED AND THE SENSOR WAS REPLACED, FAILED AGAIN AND REPLACED AGAIN. THE VEHICLE WAS RELEASED FROM THE DEALER ON 12/02/2014.
AFTER MOVING AWAY FORM THE DEALERSHIP ON 12/02/2014, WITHIN LESS THAN A MILE, THE CHECK ENGINE SENSOR ILLUMINATED AGAIN. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER IMMEDIATELY FOR THE THIRD TIME AND THE VEHICLE WAS BEING KEPT FOR FURTHER INSPECTION, DIAGNOSIS AND REPAIR. WAITING FOR A RESPONSE FROM THE DEALER AND THE MANUFACTURER TO DETERMINE THE REMEDY.
TODAY 12/08/2014 GOT A CALL FORM THE DEALER INDICATED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER ELECTRONIC FAILURE AND THE PCM BOX WAS REPLACED.
THE JOURNEY IS NOW AT THE DEALER AND WITH ALL THESE ELECTRONIC FAILURE THE VEHICLE IS UNSAFE.
I BOUGHT THIS SUV FOR MY WIFE AND MY SON WHO IS 3 YEARS OLD.
THIS SUV IS NO LONGER SAVE AND IN FACT IT HAS PRE-CONDITION. THIS SUV IS ALREADY DEFECTED.
I DID NOT BUY A NEW CAR TO BE IN THIS CONDITION.
I WANT MY MONEY BACK WITH ALL ADDED EXPANSE
- mbasraoui,
Streamwood, IL, US
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Rough idle at stop/very low speed but no rpm fluctuations at any higher driving speeds. . Code P0302 will not show up once cleared when I am driving at speeds over 1200 RPM (45-90 MPH) in 6th gear but code shows up again at slow/idling speeds in parking lots or idling at signal light.
All plugs and #2 coil pack replaced,code cleared, no change, code P0302 after 2 miles of slow driving.
Have owned since new, filter and oil changed with 5W20 Castrol every 5000miles. Car does alot of short distance driving , less than 5 miles about 12 times per week with a few 16 mile highway trips in between.
No coolant temp issues as per the coolant temp gauge.
I have NOT changed the PCV valve so maybe oil contamination in intake but that should affect all cylinders not just the #2.
No mechanical noises obvious from engine. Scan tool shows all injectors are within range and similar to each other.
The transmission shifts harder than when new, I did have the trans oil flushed/replaced with new oil but it was all models trans oil from NAPA done approx. 10,000 miles ago. Filter was not changed, I was told there is no filter for this trans by shop, not a dealership shop. Some comments online about TCC solenoid causing issues at idle due to not unloading Torque converter causing idle issues.
Also some talk of CPS causing issues.
Have gone to local Chrysler dealership and explained the issues and what has been done so far to mechanical foreman. His immediate reaction is that the rockers need to be replaced likely due to damaged needle bearings in the roller rocker causing excessive play. Fix estimate $1200-2500 depending on damage found on other rocker arms, lifters and possibly cam.
- Kimberly S., Delta, BC, Canada