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Passlock Problem, Won't Start And Security Light Is On
2002 Chevrolet Impala (Page 8 of 12)
This problem may be covered under warranty. Ask your Chevrolet dealer.
8.2
pretty bad- Typical Repair Cost:
- $520
- Average Mileage:
- 91,650 miles
- Total Complaints:
- 225 complaints
Most Common Solutions:
- not sure (68 reports)
- letting car sit for approx 30 minutes (38 reports)
- wait 10 min till securty light stops flashing, try again (18 reports)
- recall (14 reports)
- replaced body control module (11 reports)
- bypass the ignition sensor (9 reports)
electrical problem
Helpful websites
- Corrosion on the tin contacts - fix costs about $1.50 if you add dielectric grease to the inside of the contacts. problem solved. Problem is not the passlock system or tumbler. there is a wire that connects the ECU to the key tumbler and the contacts are made out of tin which develops corrosion after time. take a wire cleaner, and brush off the contacts and add dielectric grease so it doesn't corrode again. This is why people are reporting that they went in to a dealer, paid 500 dollars and it happened again in a month. DO NOT GO TO THE DEALER.
- Passkey 2 Bypass - This fix shows how to fix this on the Grand Am. I've used the same technique on my Impala.
- Passlock System Major Design Flaw And How To Fix It - The ignition switch was dissasembled and I looked closely and observed a few interesting things about the PassLock system design. 1) The male connector does not fit securely in the female connector receptacle. It can wiggle up and down and back and forth. 2) The connection is a "blind connection" meaning that during assembly one would not know if the PassLock connector was connected correctly or not. 3) The male and female pins used on the PassLock system are "Tin" plated and subject to oxidation over time. The pins should have been "gold plated." The grey oxidation was clearly visible under 10X magnification. 4) The Body Computer does not adjust over time for the oxidation that build up on the PassLock pins. The critical analog PassLock signal drifts depending on mechnical issues, temperature and humidity. Ok - GM -> The PassLock cat is out of the bag! What I did about this problem. I certainly did not take the vehicle to any GM Dealership and get "rear-ended." I simply hand soldered the three wires (Black, White and Yellow) directly to the PassLock sensor. The vehicle is repaired and I would like to let GM know that when I sell this vehicle, I will offer a "LifeTime Warranty" on the security system for this vehicle (more than you can do)!
- Passlock/VATS Bypass Fix - This site sells a part that will bypass your defective passlock system. You are not alone because many many people have been kept out of thier OWN cars because of this defective system. This part will bypass the whole system so you never have trouble again. It is much cheaper than taking it to a dealer. Worth a look for sure.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T S
I'm putting this in the 2002 Impala site, and also sent it to the 2005 site, since most seems to have been written about here and since I went to this 2002 description most to read about my problem. My vehicle is a 2005 Impala.
POSSIBLE SOLUTION. IT WORKS FOR US.
A Solution that Worked for Us. Pass Lock, Security Light Problem.
Here's a solution that worked for us and might for others who have had this problem. Background: Bought a 2005 Impala in May. After about 100 miles of driving, the Security Light started coming on intermittently. Then one day my wife went to start the car and no start. I tried it and no start. I did the 10 minute wait and it started. I reported the problem on this site, but read other sites as well. I wrote to the individual who said he had a two minute fix on post #77 of 2002 complaints but he never responded. I had decided to have the lock cylinder and key replaced, but also decided to try all kinds of things first. And I found something that worked. I got into the car, put the key in, turned it to ON, but NOT to start. I let all the seat belt dinging sound stop as well as a slight electrical or mechanical sound in the column. No more sound. Then I turned the key to START. No more Security Light problem since for either of us. We have driven hundreds of miles just to see if something would happen. Stopped on the open road, drove 100 miles in one stretch, etc. THIS WORKS FOR US. So here it is in short:
1. Get in the car and shut the door. 2. Don't do anything except put the key in the lock and turn it to the ON position. 3. Let all the sounds do their thing and come to a stop. QUIET. 4. Turn the Key to START and start the engine.
It works for us and maybe it will for you.
Update from Jul 16, 2009: I wrote to this site almost a year ago. I offered a partial soultion which you can find as #85. Some people worte me and said that it helped, but others who wrote said that it didn't. Now I am writing to offer information on what was for us an absolute solution to the problem. Here is the site you will need to go to: http://alarmtek.tripod.com/CARALARMS.html. This company makes available a system that bypasses the security system in order for a remote start system to be installed. This bypass system is contained in a small rectangular box about 2x3 inches. It is actually made in Canada, but Alarmtek is a Florida company that handles them here in the US. By having this bypass installed, the result is that your security system is bypassed, thus enabling you to avoid the problems that we have been having. It is designed for the purpose of remote start, but that doesn't matter, because it solves the passlock problem many of us have had.
I decided to give it a try since I had inquired about other solutions that many have written about here, and found that I would have to start with key cylinder replacement, etc., but might not solve the problem in the end. I called Alarmtek and talked to a very helpful employee. He assured me that this should solve my problem. I ordered the bypass which came with a number of colored wires. I also received by email some directions that were car specific for my 2005 Impala. I did as suggested, took the bypass to my auto tech/mechanic who installed it. It cost about $100 and might have been less but for the fact that my key/lock is on the dash and not on the column.
The result? Absolutely no more problems. The security light does not come on when it is not supposed to. There is no need to wait to start the car, no need to wait until all the sounds have disappeared as I previously suggested, etc. There is no problem. I even got regular metal keys and can use those as back-ups, although I still can use the keyless/remote opening as before.
This was installed on September 30, 2008. I decided to wait until nearly a year had passed to be sure that there would not be any lagging probelms, and there hasn't been a single one.
As I said before, my vehicle is a 2005 Impala, but I had put my inital post here because it seemed that there were more 2002 behicles that had the problem.
Do the Alarmtek thing! Call them; talk to them. This bypass works for a wide variety of GM vehicles even though the ad may not mention them specifically.
Now it's like we have a new Impala. No start up problems at all, and it's my wife who uses the Impala.
RS
- Ray S., Millersville, PA, US